0000222522 00000 n I assume that the stamped number is a part number or serial number. 0000094573 00000 n 0000340980 00000 n SW, SD, PU, HOUSING, OEM Truck Model(s) Applicable Model Year(s) No. So next I'll check the shaft diameter on the 51 truck with the TL to see if it's the same diameter as the spare TL. WebThe model of the steering gear can be identified by the letters and numerals stamped into the casting and may require light cleaning of the surface for them to become legible. Steering Column with welded mount bracket and upper & lower bush.. Monday - Thursday 8:00am to 6:00pm CST hb``a`f`g`}A,~iq@EF#abrPKvLNW8:%, : !P,0 y`IAFngXm21;H1T0adr=`@R=y#H5e0bX `'E^%F5f*3x8'0``Qx@"\D'23X9089Jy0712H46`N`AAeU7G0|`aHR MYC6.&0r0g4#0 i. We will need to know some information to be able to provide parts, an entire unit or one of our amazing aftermarket replacement units, sales@mwdirectional.com or call us @ 1.800.237.5048. 639116. I have a 51 4wd truck and a 58 4wd wagon and both have the Ross TL gear boxes in them. OEM Truck Model(s) Applicable Model Year(s) No. Once we got the shim stack right, we coated the shims and retainer bolts with Permatex Aviation Form-a-Gasket and torqued the cover to place to 20 lb-ft. We installed a new sector shaft seal and then inserted the sector shaft with the pins on the worm gear roughly centered in the box and filled it with synthetic grease. 0000012069 00000 n Product Number: ACS341. The worm gear comes out after removal of several snap rings and the lower bearing assembly. We can still help you. WebThe model of the steering gear can be identified by the letters and numerals stamped into the casting and may require light cleaning of the surface for them to become legible. So back to the example HGA08122 we have a HGA08 displacement, open center with a pinhole shaft. So, it measures right between 7/8 and 15/16. I took them apart and the ball bearings had flat spots. **OEM New Service Part Number TRW Reman Part Number. MB/GPW, CJ-2A, 3A, 3B, 5, 6, DJ-3A, 0000008625 00000 n WebThis is a guide to help you identify a Saginaw steering box and variations of each steering gearbox. Often we can identify a power steering gear fitted to a vehicle from the make, model and year. The people at Kaiser Willys said they dont have any way to The new Omix bellcrank kit (PN 18042.03), includes a new pivot, bearings, seals, and hardware. Its no wonder that power or manual Saginaw conversions were and still are so popular on these old vehicles. Please see attached PDF, or take a look at our photo for a visual description. It uses a 3 bolt "triangle" pattern. Fits ROSS steering box only. When counting the splines, it is important to know that the 30 and 36 counts include any missing splines that are removed where a flat on the shaft is. Again, the older SAE gearboxes are very hard to find, so the majority of the gearboxes we sell are metric. 0000017090 00000 n The 800 has a 70mm piston and the 808 has an 80mm piston. Now I'll have to look at the one from my 62. Privacy Policy. That's interesting and confusing. We invite you to join us by subscribing to our popular blog, reading our tractor stories and enjoying some tractor trivia. If it can be rebuilt I'd much rather do that. DJ-5, 6. *OEM New Gear Part Number. G503, 10/59. 0000088874 00000 n 0000055744 00000 n Then we locked the set screw nut down, reinstalled the steering tube, upper bearings, and steering wheel, and reinstalled it in the vehicle. Ross has been in business forever and has always been known for their quality and durability. Anyone know if parts to rebuild it are available or what it even came from? GEAR, ROSS # TL122992. Cu STOM CuSTOM. Discussion in ' The Hokey Ass Message Board ' started by Matt Kvamme, Jan 11, 2017 . The sub-model number is stamped into the housing, opposite the mounting side. 0000050316 00000 n A threaded shaft (found in 2WD vehicles) and a notched shaft (found in 4WD vehicles). 0000105498 00000 n I have rebuilt several of these boxes for my 317s and others. At that time, I didn't know there were different types so I guess I just happened by luck to pick the correct one. Also both the TA and TL shafts look exactly the same. Ours was okay, so we just installed a new Omix sector shaft seal (PN 18029.03). 33 0 obj <> endobj I can think of 5 different steering boxes in the Willys wagon/ pickups. The top end cover is attached to the main body by (4) four attaching bolts. of bushing* 1-3/8" outside diameter* 3/4" inside diameter* Nylon. It came originally with a 21:1 ratio. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! 0000223395 00000 n of Ross steering. Custom Chassis UPS Walk in Van 2 TAS40037A GAFP107629 RGT TAS40037AX TAS40037R Custom Chassis MT45. 0000087953 00000 n Sub-model number 392S4-S6. They are much more common and easier to find cores, so we typically sell the 3-hole version. Please see attached PDF, or take a look at our photo for a visual description. Though at the time I didnt know who Rube Goldberg was, the guys who created the cartoon characters Tom and Jerry surely did. %-? 2wd Jeepster 2. early 2wd wagons and panels w/ planar. So there is nothing like 100% confirmation that we have the correct information. 0000083321 00000 n You will need to know which you have. * For tractors with Ross steering, please view ACS190. Here's a link with some pictures that show both types with slotted holes. I don't know if there are specific differences in pieces or sizes of the wagon vs cj style of Ross box (within the cj range, there is the smaller 4cyl ross box, and the larger v6/m38a1 box), that would cause issues, as its getting good quality replacement parts that is his biggest challenge. 0000105882 00000 n 0000010052 00000 n Can't find what you are looking for? In all, input from the steering wheel is really more of a suggestion to the front tires than a command. WebGet the best deals for ross steering box parts at eBay.com. The pitman arm shaft has a lot of up and down movement when you turn the wheel. There are some numbers on the steering box, both stamped in and cast. WebSteering Gear Cross-Reference Chart TRW manufactures gears and parts for hundreds of vehicle models from Freightliner, International, Kenworth, Mack, Peterbilt, Sterling and Volvo, as well as for select custom vehicles. WebThe model HGF Hydraguide power steering unit is Ross' most recent addition to its series of hydrostatic steering products. Both of them felt "crunchy" and had no "center". Most of our ball bearings were missing and our race was pretty hammered, so we used a new steering column bearing kit from Omix (PN 18030.02). We couldnt find a source for a new sector shaft, so instead we had a machine shop press out and rotate our old pins so fresh area contacted the worm gear. I deemed a rebuild of the factory steering components would be more than adequate to carry out this vehicles mission of cruising around town and driving through the mountains to bump down the occasional moderate desert trail. Note the wear on our original sector shafts pins (arrows). The number is under the surface. This part number is stamped into the top end cover. But maybe my memory is wrong . This gearbox was found in GM trucks and SUVs up to 1986. STEERING GEAR, WITH HORN SWITCH ADAPTER FOR WATERPROOF SYSTEM, Instrument Cluster Light Socket Kit, 1955-86 CJ. 0000083211 00000 n 0000014161 00000 n Please see attached, BUT wait there are more digits? Just give us a call. q%O 3?O\e,9?SpzwX_(p);g~(\_G|AHj?1X8n!gC/i8.^?J~DY@h2jFqf2&}!M 0000106389 00000 n 0000033565 00000 n %%EOF Technical Ross steering box identification. 0000014300 00000 n We offerthe Saginaw Bronco gearboxwith a 14:1 and a firmer valve for the perfect feel. 9>DJ&DxAy-6(C[|vfpca;xzyu#Hk:C*mdHc):=:#H]P#1=#J~+P8!yAyAG 0000003743 00000 n Despite being in production for 30 years, you just cant just go into any local auto parts store for rebuild parts for one of these steering systems. On the other hand, the cam-and-lever setup on these vehicles is a design proven by literally 75 years of use. xref Friday 8:00am to 5:00pm CST HOUSING, that maybe the TA was for the 2wd trucks/wagons and the TL was used on the 4wd vehicles. Pacer (16), Pony The old pin must be machined out. Sunday: Closed. There are three distint but similar Ross steering boxes. 0000000016 00000 n 0000012668 00000 n We wound up buying a good take-out steering box from a buddys M38A1 just for the good worm shaft. 0000105424 00000 n I put a caliper on the shaft where it comes out of the box and it measured .911 in. Browse WebSTEERING GEAR SIDE COVER, FORD MARKED, 2 C TO C BETWEEN BOLT HOLES, STAMPED GPW-3583 INSIDE AND F OUTSIDE. Discussion in ' The Hokey Ass Message Board ' started by Matt Kvamme, Jan 11, 2017 . http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7126. Copyright Midwest Directional, Inc. All Rights Reserved. 0000019547 00000 n The Moses Ludel book suggests using a spring scale on the shaft to measure 12- to 34-pound preload. Often we can identify a power steering gear fitted to a vehicle from the make, model and year. 0000007259 00000 n Then, you can remove the upper cover (shown) and carefully remove and clean all the shims for reuse. Allis Chalmers - Fits: [ B, C, CA, G, IB (With Ross Steering Box) ]; Replaces: 210475, 70210475 * To fit original tube, must sand approximately 0.005" off O.D. This box has many variations! It is also a good idea to verify your input shaft type. Massey Ferguson - Replaces: 1500333M11, 1503398M11 Massey Harris - Fits: Pacer (16), Pony (fits Pony and Ferguson 11 and 14) Fits Ross steering box (single pin). # T125996, 2 C TO C BETWEEN BOLT HOLES, HAS OPENING FOR A FILL PLUG. **OEM New Service Part Number TRW Reman Part Number. Some models around the 2001 switch over may not follow these guidelines. 0000341535 00000 n This identifies the steering gear specification. 0000341826 00000 n Without fail, the only way weve been able to get a vintage Jeep steering wheel off is with a three-jaw puller. I assume that the stamped number is a part number or serial number. j%t}=:{S;{ hbYXn,[Xcm8lZsTW`"bp&n;P=88ymqs! Dont use marker or anything that can get washed off with grease or solvents. OEM Truck Model(s) Applicable Model Year(s) No. * Primer paint* Color may vary* Please fit to tractor before painting, Allis Chalmers - Fits: C (With Ross Steering Box); Replaces: 219390, 70219390 * Primer paint finish* 40" length* 1-1/2" outside diameter (OD)* Does not include bushing, Allis Chalmers - Fits: B, C, CA; Replaces: 225244, 70225244 * Fits tractors with Gemmer steering boxes. Unfortunately, the M38A1 and M-170 use a few slightly beefier and more obscure parts than the earlier military and civilian Jeeps, so I needed to track down a good used sector shaft and worm gear since mine were kinda fubar. The basic "cam and lever" type as used, for instance by AA and BB Stutz had a flat-ended taper section which engaged a flat-bottom thread worm on the shaft to the steering wheel. Please answer the Captcha question to use this search. Ross has been in business forever and has always been known for their quality and durability. 0000023022 00000 n Terms of Service. <]/Prev 500277>> The gear box on the 58 wagon which is a low milage vehicle, doesn't have any slop in it at all. Look at any bearing that uses balls or rollers and you will find they are contained in a cage of some kind. "H7`v.Vc&`2lt@dtH%``3IS: Jbkf`AP(Bg` 0000378127 00000 n 0000223963 00000 n We disconnected our worn tie-rod ends and drag link and then unfastened the pinch bolt before unthreading the pivot from its mount. ). 0 With the upper bearing installed, we adjusted the shims that go under the top cover. STEERING GEAR, WITH HORN SWITCH ADAPTER FOR WATERPROOF SYSTEM, ROSS # TA122995, HOUSING, STEERING WebSteering Gear Cross-Reference Chart TRW manufactures gears and parts for hundreds of vehicle models from Freightliner, International, Kenworth, Mack, Peterbilt, Sterling and Volvo, as well as for select custom vehicles. *OEM New Gear Part Number. Product Number: ACS341. Please see attached PDF, or take a look at our photo for a visual description. 0000089027 00000 n 0000106579 00000 n WebPower Steering Gears. This gearbox was used on limited Ford Mustang and Ford Cougar models from 1971-1973. HMn$7}i`l^ F2xP%$V_! As of just recently and probably still are the main supplier of steering gears for class 8 trucks (Peterbilt, KW ect) course they are power steeriing and are massive.Over the years they have made boxes for many sizes of trucks, tractors, The basic "cam and lever" type as used, for instance by AA and BB Stutz had a flat-ended taper section which engaged a flat-bottom thread worm on the shaft to the steering wheel. 0000017958 00000 n JavaScript is disabled. 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Its much like the factory Ross cam and lever steering in most 71-earlier Jeeps. 0000019422 00000 n Allis Chalmers - Fits: B (With Ross Steering Box); Replaces: 206765, 210472, 70210472 * Primer paint finish* 40-15/16" long* 1-1/2" outside diameter (OD)* Does not include bushing. I have rebuilt several of these boxes for my 317s and others. The sub-model number is stamped into the housing, opposite the mounting side. Easter Hours - Closed Friday, April 7th thru Sunday, April 9th. %PDF-1.5 % My early build 1950 4wd must have a TA box as I just rebuilt it and it had two slotted holes and one round hole. I'm not saying you can't get away with putting the steering gear box back together without the cages, personally I wouldn't and haven't. We can do gearbox rebuilds on many other gearbox styles, but for anything other thanthe Saginaw models listed here you must send your gearbox into us for rebuild. 0000222872 00000 n %PDF-1.6 % This TA shaft doesn't have a willys steering wheel on it now but I thought it did and I had removed it years ago. Will work with power steering. We turned the shaft all the way left-to-right in each direction, counting turns as we went so we could back it up to dead center. This part number is stamped into the top end cover. Gearboxes before 1980 will have 5/8" and 11/16" SAE inverted flare fittings while gearboxes after 1980 will have 16mm and 18mm O-ring fittings. Maybe needs grease and adjusting. Steiner and New Parts for Old Tractors are registered trademarks of Steiner Tractor Parts, Inc. 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